Locals vs Las Vegas

[oldslotguy]

I still think that the Las Vegas locals have the best paybacks outside of the Reno area, they used to have the best in the entire USA a few years ago.
I also think the Las Vegas strip is still the worst of anywhere now, used to be better years ago.

The local NA casinos are in between, at least in my area. I have gone to them enough that I see the PAR sheets taped to the new machines when they are being installed. The PAR sheets actually have written in the payback % they are set at. At most of my locals the 1 cent and 2 cent games are either set at 90.05%, 90.60% or 91.01%. For some reason I see them at one of these three numbers- they set their dollar games at 93.07%- see it written every time. Harrah's may be the exception- they say they have an overall payback of 93% on all games, but when they have new slots I never see their paybacks written in on their PAR sheets- always blank, though I did see a tech working on a WW2 game once, and it showed it was set to a measly 86.7%- had four payback options, they chose the lowest.

Mighty lucky you get to see those kdk. When installing or 'maintaining' machines at the SE they are safety taped off, so you can't get anywhere near 'em while they're open.

[Kimsa70]

Interesting topic. I play very differently at my local v Las Vegas. Honestly I think the pennies have horrible paybacks on the strip.

The one local in my area that has been good for penny players lately is Cache Creek but I think they adjusted paybacks to compete with the other locals.

Clemi, my experiences are the opposite. Foxwoods slots are so tight, I get no play on pennies. I play for hours in Vegas. I still lose in both places. Lol!

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[SoCalRob]

Clemi, my experiences are the opposite. Foxwoods slots are so tight, I get no play on pennies. I play for hours in Vegas. I still lose in both places. Lol!

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Ditto @Kimsa70. At any of my locals I feel like I get more play on pennies in Vegas. Here I can lose $500 in 1 hour or so. In Vegas it takes me at least 3. More times than not. Unless I'm having an absolutely horrible luck.

[camon]

It does not matter where you go. It is all about timing and being on the right slot at the right time or on tables, all about skill and decisions you make. I do not notice a difference wherever I go (vegas or locals). I observe myself and I observe others around that are playing when I am walking around to see how machines are paying for others. For progressive slots, same thing, but takes a little thinking depending on what the jackpots are at. Sometimes they can hit back to back, sometimes they can get really high before they hit Ones that have the jackpots where it says hits by 5000, 500, 100, or whatever it may say, it could hit at the last dollar before it automatically hits (ex. 1000 could hit at 999) or it could hit at its start or in between. It is all timing and being at the right place at the right time. I do not see a difference between casinos. All slots hit at different times of the days.

Like in you guys AC meet n greet trip, most of you had a winning trip playing smart and being on the right slot at the right time especially Ken and the last time you guys went was not as good from what I remember.

[dvandentop]

Ditto @Kimsa70. At any of my locals I feel like I get more play on pennies in Vegas. Here I can lose $500 in 1 hour or so. In Vegas it takes me at least 3. More times than not. Unless I'm having an absolutely horrible luck.

yep same here usually can loose real quick on alot of machines at a local where vegas seem to get better wins over the course of that $ to keep on playin

[Big Mac]

I manage to lose $$$ on both pennies and higher denominations They don't discriminate against me.

I plan to play only old machines when in Vegas at the end of the month nickel and quarter denominations and see if the play gets extended. The new penny slots have been brutal for me.

[CPT]

Like in you guys AC meet n greet trip, most of you had a winning trip playing smart and being on the right slot at the right time especially Ken and the last time you guys went was not as good from what I remember.

My strategy was every time I got a few hundies I threw them in the safe and never looked back! You are right though, timing is everything!