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Kimsa70
05-21-2016, 03:43 PM
Well, I found out someone I know has had their host, multiple times, look up my information in the casino's system.

That is a total violation of privacy.

What if this person was someone wanting to rob my house when I wasn't home or what if this person was an estranged ex looking to find me and do something unmentionable.

How would you feel if members of this forum had an open book to your gambling history and/or scheduled gambling days at your local?

I can understand hosts sharing client info amongst themselves, but I'd hope they have some rules about sharing client info with other clients?

What a slimy asshole of a loser who would do something like that!

What do you guys think?

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20cardmg
05-21-2016, 04:17 PM
If I found that out..I would sue...settle out of court for a tidy sum..and take a nice trip to Vegas!!!

slotbender
05-21-2016, 04:20 PM
I totally agree with you Kim. It's called "spying"! But we are now living in a high tech World where certain people are using computers to find info on "people of interest". They've been coming out with smart cars, smart phones, and smart homes, etc., claiming that these things are convenient, also time and energy savers to get consumers to buy them. What they don't tell you is that using these items make it much easier for certain others to spy on you. I can remember years ago when the gov't wanted to get deeper info on someone they normally went to insurance companies because the insurance companies (at that time) were the only ones that had "in depth" info on anyone that's ever been insured for anything. Nowadays, just about anything you do is collected and compiled by a computer so anyone with the right password (or a hacker) can obtain your information. If you can get proof that a casino host is giving your personal info out to anyone other than another casino then you should have a case to get that host fired & black balled from the casino industry. Good luck!

charlie50
05-21-2016, 04:27 PM
THE internet can Be a very Dangerous place .Even here on JWE in what seems like a safe place . You must Always make sure you don't share things that could come back to bite you on the ass . but in reference to your particular problem . I would certainly at the Very least find out who this hosts boss is and have him/her Dismissed . or your gonna sue the piss out of them .

sondor
05-21-2016, 04:38 PM
I would be mad...All your points are valid. Where I work that is one of the quickest way to get fired, to use customer information for anything but it's intended use....Up to you how far you want to pursue it, but the cosmo just sent people checks for not letting them know that phone calls may be recorded...and this is a much larger invasion of privacy.

Pat
05-21-2016, 05:07 PM
Dang Kim, that is just wrong. Of course if you confront the person, they will deny it. It really could open up a can of worms if you take it to a higher level. The host could really take it out on you comp wise.

BorgataBabe
05-21-2016, 05:23 PM
@Kimsa, that is fucked up but I am not surprised to hear of it. It is very easy today for people who know how find out certain information on people today. In a very short period of time computers have made it very easy for people's personal information to be violated.

I don't know what you can really do about the situation you are in but are you also saying this is someone who is on JWE? If so this is really messed up.


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Nhcris
05-21-2016, 05:36 PM
Computer privacy is one thing, and it is very difficult to protect yourself online. But this is an absolute outrage! Please follow up and please share the results. I sincerely hope this does not involve anyone from our Joker family!

RiverSong
05-21-2016, 05:55 PM
Invasive...SMH. Discuss with your host, see what the casino privacy policy covers and proceed from there.

Reen
05-21-2016, 05:59 PM
Kim, that is very upsetting to hear. I agree this is a total violation of your privacy. I hope something can be done to prevent this from happening again, also if you can take legal action.

goldengreeke
05-21-2016, 06:08 PM
Kim, you didn't say for sure that this person is a member of this forum, and I hope it isn't. But that being said, this is an open forum to lurkers and many of us give out WAY to much info.

Lurkers know what we look like, what day we are leaving for the casino, whether we are driving or flying, where we are staying, when we are returning home, and sometimes even how much cash we are taking. Gotta be careful now days...

Darlene
05-21-2016, 06:12 PM
I would be mad as hell and would confront the host involved as well as involve the higher ups.

treyster
05-21-2016, 06:15 PM
Are they doing it just for fun? Curiosity? What's the goal?

The host is out of whack too. WTF

BorgataBabe
05-21-2016, 06:16 PM
Kim, you didn't say for sure that this person is a member of this forum, and I hope it isn't. But that being said, this is an open forum to lurkers and many of us give out WAY to much info.

Lurkers know what we look like, what day we are leaving for the casino, whether we are driving or flying, where we are staying, when we are returning home, and sometimes even how much cash we are taking. Gotta be careful now days...
Exactly GG, it's why I don't post pictures of myself on here, I know I seem like a pain in the ass at the meets when I say I don't want my picture posted onto the forum but I do think we open ourselves up too much today. Too many snaky people out here today.

TwoArmedBandito
05-21-2016, 06:40 PM
How did you find out about this? Did your host tell you? Why multi times? Odd. Unless tracking where you are.
I would be pissed off. If this is a Indian casino. I think your SOL on suing. You might be able to get him fired.
If other type of casino, I'd sue. Settle for cash and firing of host.

Do you know the person that is digging up info on you?

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hytail
05-21-2016, 06:57 PM
K, I would be angry and feel violated. If it were me, I would take it seriously.


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Kimsa70
05-21-2016, 07:00 PM
It's been multiple times, it is and Indian casino, so yes, TAB, I'm SOL. I know the host's name, so when I'm at that casino, if I see him, I will say something.


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Kimsa70
05-21-2016, 07:02 PM
I've actually stopped posting on here when I'm at my local because of this invasion of privacy. I'll post after the fact.

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zeus
05-21-2016, 07:03 PM
Kim, this is sad and goes to prove that it is hard to trust anyone these days. Yes, I would be pissed beyond belief. I have too much mouth to let something like this passing without confronting someone. Good luck with whatever happens.

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Kimsa70
05-21-2016, 07:13 PM
And I must add that I've already taken some action on this with the casino, but don't want to share here because who knows if the person in question may be on here.

I'm glad that all you jokers see this from how I've been feeling. It helps. Thanks everyone!

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foamy
05-21-2016, 07:30 PM
No s*** I would cut that his nuts off and shove them down his throat

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Kimsa70
05-21-2016, 07:32 PM
No s*** I would cut that his nuts off and shove them down his throat

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Can you do it for me, foamy?! HHH!
Only kidding!

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sassycat
05-21-2016, 07:55 PM
That is bullshit! How dare the host do that!
I am really surprised. At all the CET properties I play at - (and James is my 7 star companion) - they will not give him any information about my play. This host needs to be taught a lesson.

owls
05-21-2016, 08:56 PM
I think this is lawsuit worthy.

nancypants
05-21-2016, 09:19 PM
That is a total violation of privacy! I understand sharing info between casino employee hosts but sharing with non casino employee is wrong.

How did you find out about this Kimsa70? What can you do? Can you tell your host that you'll stop coming if this continues? I'm sure he doesn't want to lose your business.


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FL Mary
05-22-2016, 12:07 AM
I would be angry! :mad-new: That host needs to be fired.

Kimsa70
05-22-2016, 12:58 PM
Thanks again everyone for all your support and suggestions. I'll keep you updated as things progress.

An apology from the offender would be a great step, too.

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Kimsa70
05-22-2016, 01:05 PM
How did you find out about this? Did your host tell you? Why multi times? Odd. Unless tracking where you are.
I would be pissed off. If this is a Indian casino. I think your SOL on suing. You might be able to get him fired.
If other type of casino, I'd sue. Settle for cash and firing of host.

Do you know the person that is digging up info on you?

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TAB, yes I do know the person. Greasy, shady, fat, short slimeball. Lol!

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Jeani
05-22-2016, 05:42 PM
I'm sure this is a violation of the casino's policy and I would hope they take your complaint seriously as it is outrageous. To share casino host to casino host is one thing but to a "joe schmo dip wad" is just plain wrong and definitely a violation of your privacy. I'm sure they wouldn't want all their high rollers to know that this happens ....... Best of luck Kimsa70 and hope the casino owns up and does right by you and the slimeball gets what is coming to him too!!! GL :)

RiverSong
05-22-2016, 06:15 PM
I might have missed this...but was this a casino in LV or your local in Connecticut?

nancypants
05-22-2016, 06:37 PM
I'm sure it's local RiverSong. I can't imagine a casino in Vegas doing something this shady. They'd risk all their clients! I would have it out on blast Kimsa70 so that other high $ players know their info isn't safe.


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Jen Jen
05-22-2016, 08:50 PM
I had to read this twice. This is pretty messed up. If you have evidence of this happening you should file a lawsuit. Who knows how many other people have had this done to them. I hope you get this all figured out. Good luck.

QueenB
05-22-2016, 09:11 PM
Being a Native American Casino, I'm guessing there isn't a lot of legal recourse here, which sucks. It is such a clear violation of your privacy. Hopefully the casino has an internal process to handle this situation. This is unbelieveable! I know I've gone up to the desk to see if they can tell me where my husband is playing when I can't find him and they won't even do that, which is annoying, but understandable. I can't imagine what the reason is for this-nosiness or is there some other purpose? And for the other host to provide the info? TERRIBLE!

nancypants
05-22-2016, 11:18 PM
Being a Native American Casino, I'm guessing there isn't a lot of legal recourse here, which sucks. It is such a clear violation of your privacy. Hopefully the casino has an internal process to handle this situation. This is unbelieveable! I know I've gone up to the desk to see if they can tell me where my husband is playing when I can't find him and they won't even do that, which is annoying, but understandable. I can't imagine what the reason is for this-nosiness or is there some other purpose? And for the other host to provide the info? TERRIBLE!

that's so smart. why didn't i think of finding my husband that way? genius!!!!

Mary9915
05-23-2016, 04:02 PM
I'm really angry for you Kimsa. This is so wrong on all accounts!

dvandentop
05-24-2016, 03:59 AM
that's so smart. why didn't i think of finding my husband that way? genius!!!!
Only a true degen has to be paged over a casino loudspeaker haha

Marilyn
05-24-2016, 06:24 AM
Not sure about this, but Indian Casino or not, they are still a business that has to report to the federal government. So I say whatever you can do about this violation of privacy by a business can be done. I don't know what your course will be, but personally, I would make hell for the casino if they don't take action on their SOB employee.

irisheyes
05-24-2016, 05:05 PM
Kimsa, was this person who found out the information a friend of yours? Completely unprofessional and inexcusable on the part of the host! Not the kind of host that I would want to have! I would definitely go to the host's supervisor and upper management.

Blase
05-24-2016, 07:24 PM
Only a true degen has to be paged over a casino loudspeaker haha

I resemble that remark!

nancypants
05-24-2016, 08:13 PM
Only a true degen has to be paged over a casino loudspeaker haha

It's my mom I always have to find! LOL!!!!


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hytail
05-25-2016, 12:01 AM
Only a true degen has to be paged over a casino loudspeaker haha

SOP at Winstar. Every 10 minutes calling out someone's name to pick up house phone.


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darrellk
05-25-2016, 10:44 AM
I think I just read a reply from this individual on FB. LOL


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Kimsa70
05-25-2016, 11:00 AM
I think I just read a reply from this individual on FB. LOL


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Too bad this individual doesn't have the guts to admit it here.

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darrellk
05-25-2016, 12:03 PM
Too bad this individual doesn't have the guts to admit it here.

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As I have never met either one of you I am not taking sides here. My LOL was merely my indication that I figured out who you are talking about.


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Kimsa70
05-25-2016, 02:29 PM
As I have never met either one of you I am not taking sides here. My LOL was merely my indication that I figured out who you are talking about.


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Thanks, darrell. I think people's true colors shine through. I'm honest to a fault and I guess that can be a burden sometimes.

I do know that I don't stalk people by accessing their private information. That I know for sure.

If I was a stalker, why would my only public complaint come about after I found out my personal information was violated? Who's the Stalker now? Certainly not me.

And I don't make threats as this Stalker of me has towards me. Yeah, im shaking in my boots over Uncle Crash from Utica! NOT! That too, I know for sure.

Freedom of speech is a right we all have to say hello to anyone in a public place.

Someone whose self worth comes from hitting jackpots is a very sad individual. I don't need any props from folks on my wins, I just enjoy sharing my hobby. No competition going on here.

Looks like someone is a sore loser when I'm pointed out as someone another member puts at the top of his list to slot with. That is sad.

And those of you who choose to be single and not have children and focus on your career, you too are all deranged for making those choices in life. That is sad that someone thinks that about a large sector of the population!

Oh, and as for medication, I take cholesterol meds, vitamin b complex and vitamin d. I must be loopy to be taking all that shit!

And as far as accusations of cheating?! Not sure where that came from, certainly not me. Someone must have a guilty conscience, and it's not over anything involving me, that's for sure!

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Nhcris
05-25-2016, 03:21 PM
What I really want to know is why did a person attempt to set up a JWE ID impersonating Kim here? Perhaps someone could explain that to us? Ezlife

Kimsa70
05-25-2016, 03:48 PM
And to bring this full circle, the original topic is a host looking up my information and sharing it with another casino patron.

We've gotten wayyyyy off topic!

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Pat
05-25-2016, 03:59 PM
And to bring this full circle, the original topic is a host looking up my information and sharing it with another casino patron.

We've gotten wayyyyy off topic!

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I agree. But the question I have and maybe I missed the answer to is this.....who told you that someone was looking into your personal stats. A casino employee?

Kimsa70
05-25-2016, 04:05 PM
I agree. But the question I have and maybe I missed the answer to is this.....who told you that someone was looking into your personal stats. A casino employee?
It doesn't matter how I found out. I'm not looking to get anyone in trouble, i just want it to stop. The person has previously shared with me that he got his host to look up Eric R's play and that the guy was not as big a player as he portrayed himself to be....which later proved true.

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nancypants
05-25-2016, 05:05 PM
I dunno Kimsa70... There's so much beating around the bush going on. Maybe it's better just to be totally transparent and just say who is who.

Some things to think about:

Why did person A tell you that person B was looking and is this true?

If it isn't true, is there an ulterior motive behind person A starting this rumor?

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Kimsa70
05-25-2016, 05:15 PM
I dunno Kimsa70... There's so much beating around the bush going on. Maybe it's better just to be totally transparent and just say who is who.

Some things to think about:

Why did person A tell you that person B was looking and is this true?

If it isn't true, is there an ulterior motive behind person A starting this rumor?

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I could care less about motives. It happened and all I want is for it not to happen again. I'm dealing with it through the casino as I know no one's gonna fess up. Just trying to share with you folks what can happen to your casino information when people are up to no good.

A, B or C, it's all the same to me.

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Nhcris
05-25-2016, 05:59 PM
The following is taken from Foxwoods FAQ on their website. It is pretty clear that this host violated policy, although Foxwoods disclaimer probably protects them from liability. I would absolutely follow up with them Kim, and hopefully they will at the very least discipline the host & cut ties with the person who requested the information. I really appreciate you bringing this to our attention since we have several Foxwoods players on this Forum and they should know there is a possibility that their information has been shared without their knowledge. You may not be the only person who has been violated.




"Personal Information Collected
You may be required to supply personal information such as your name, address, telephone number and/or email address in order to receive certain information, participate in promotions, make reservations or place orders. A personal identification number provided by Foxwoods may be required to access certain personal information. By providing personal information, you agree to be placed on marketing lists and may receive promotional materials from Foxwoods from time to time.
Your personal information is stored on secure servers that are not accessible by third parties. We provide you with the capability to transmit your personal information via secured and encrypted channels if you use a similarly equipped Web browser. Personally identifiable information is stored on our Web server and is not publicly accessible. Further, personally identifiable information is only accessed by Foxwoods employees on a "need to know" basis. In order to ensure that all of your personal information is correct and up to date, you will be able to update your personal information. While we strive to protect your personal information, Foxwoods cannot ensure or warrant the security of any information you transmit to us, and you do so at your own risk."

NYphoenix
05-25-2016, 06:43 PM
Sounds like Jerry Springer needs to be called in to straighten this shit out!

finallychris
05-26-2016, 04:01 PM
I wonder how many times you have been paged? JK

Big Mac
05-26-2016, 05:58 PM
Kim, I feel for you, it is no ones business to know what your gambling habit entails. This is an invasion of your privacy and the casino needs to deal with it.

GG had some very valid points about us oversharing sometimes as we think everyone on the forum are good people, it is sad that one douchebag can ruin our trust.

Stay safe and I hope you get this resolved...

B

Jackpot
05-26-2016, 10:27 PM
I would feel violated, just like you. Hope this stops and better measures are taken to ensure everyone's information stays private.

phillycub
05-27-2016, 05:57 AM
There's always one smelly douche in the crowd. For what it's worth Kim, I hope it all straightens out. I happen to think our Joker family would never do that to you....at least I hope not.

All the best,
Chris

Kimsa70
05-27-2016, 01:13 PM
There's always one smelly douche in the crowd. For what it's worth Kim, I hope it all straightens out. I happen to think our Joker family would never do that to you....at least I hope not.

All the best,
Chris
Thanks phillycub. The perpetrator is playing dirty and talking about me in Facebook groups I have no access to because I've had him blocked on my Facebook for over 2 years!

And he will not post here for some reason. And has gone on non-sensical rants about things with no relation to his invasion of my privacy. I think he's fallen off the deep end! Hope he gets some help.

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Shelby76
05-30-2016, 02:11 PM
Hope this all gets sorted out for you Kimsa! Nice saying HI to you last week at Foxwoods!

kittygirl
05-30-2016, 02:20 PM
Kimsa,

You have every right to be upset! I would be livid also! Sounds like he is a jerk! I think sometimes weirdos use social media to be nasty.