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goldengreeke
01-03-2017, 01:11 AM
That didn't take long lol

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treyster
01-03-2017, 02:09 AM
Shocker to zero, a year's work gone

dailun
01-03-2017, 04:23 AM
Don't feel alone, I think we're all that way until they pay the SOY and Q4 bonuses.

merlot_1
01-03-2017, 04:27 AM
Yeah, it happens every Jan 1st, but still depressing to start the year with Zero TR credits.. :(

goldengreeke
01-03-2017, 05:49 AM
Don't feel alone, I think we're all that way until they pay the SOY and Q4 bonuses. Last year in Jan or Feb they gave me 5,000 bonus TR points to start the new year but I haven't played since the Hammond M&G late last summer so I don't think I have anything coming.

dvandentop
01-03-2017, 06:19 AM
Glad mlife resets in September so I get a head start for tiers since usually make trips in fall and spring otherwise hard to earn platinum since no summer trips

kdk
01-03-2017, 08:38 AM
Yeah, hate how all that work just clears away. GG you probably made Diamond Aspiration I, they give you 5000 free points if you get 40K the year before. I got that too last year but didn't make it this year.

Only way to avoid this is to be at a CET property on New Years day and play, since the bonuses hit later.

dailun
01-03-2017, 04:05 PM
Yeah, hate how all that work just clears away. GG you probably made Diamond Aspiration I, they give you 5000 free points if you get 40K the year before. I got that too last year but didn't make it this year.

Only way to avoid this is to be at a CET property on New Years day and play, since the bonuses hit later.

I don't understand . . . it's not where you start, it's where you end. I am 7* and have a much further way to go than others. However, this year I'm gonna (try to be) smart. You can make 7* in as little as 13 or 14 gambling days, and maximize your play in Q2 (if you can).

foamy
01-03-2017, 05:21 PM
Everybody resets it's just when Laurie and I went to KC new years day and I got 2500 tier so with the other bonus deals I'm probably diamond already.

foamy
01-03-2017, 05:36 PM
Yeah, it happens every Jan 1st, but still depressing to start the year with Zero TR credits.. :(

Thats why we never go for new years eve I just can't spend any money knowing in the morning it will be wiped clean we get up early new years day and go.

charlie50
01-03-2017, 05:50 PM
WE dont understand most of these systems (TR , M-life , Gratze..We dont know how any of them works and it seems like they make them hard to understand on purpose .If it wasn't for Donna having a TR credit card we wouldn't be any wheres close to Our platinum status .at least with the Advantage card System (Coushatta ) it tells you exactly where your at points and cash wise & we can get an app for our i-phones if we like. Ill be talking to some of y'all at the meet about these different systems so that we might exploit them more to our benefit.

Penguin
01-03-2017, 09:46 PM
Thats why we never go for new years eve I just can't spend any money knowing in the morning it will be wiped clean we get up early new years day and go.
I have that same problem only it starts in Nov knowing we will not gamble enough to increase tier level or comps. HHH

MNvegasgal
01-03-2017, 10:01 PM
I am working on cementing our Platinum status with MLife this trip.. As we don't have plans to go to an MGM casino until October, now that Keith is Diamond at Ceasars we will use that for our trips this year. Thinking Tahoe.. Hopefully AC for the meet and greet and Maybe a KC or Council Bluffs trip. Much harder to earn Tier credits in Biloxi. I still need 4500 so I better get a move on.


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dailun
01-04-2017, 03:30 AM
I am working on cementing our Platinum status with MLife this trip.. As we don't have plans to go to an MGM casino until October, now that Keith is Diamond at Ceasars we will use that for our trips this year. Thinking Tahoe.. Hopefully AC for the meet and greet and Maybe a KC or Council Bluffs trip. Much harder to earn Tier credits in Biloxi. I still need 4500 so I better get a move on.


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For mLife, if you play anywhere but Las Vegas, you take a tremendous hit. That's one of the reasons that I left mLife.

dvandentop
01-04-2017, 02:37 PM
For mLife, if you play anywhere but Las Vegas, you take a tremendous hit. That's one of the reasons that I left mLife.
Yeah in Biloxi it's a big tier credit hit but faster express comps.

dailun
01-04-2017, 04:24 PM
WE dont understand most of these systems (TR , M-life , Gratze..We dont know how any of them works and it seems like they make them hard to understand on purpose .If it wasn't for Donna having a TR credit card we wouldn't be any wheres close to Our platinum status .at least with the Advantage card System (Coushatta ) it tells you exactly where your at points and cash wise & we can get an app for our i-phones if we like. Ill be talking to some of y'all at the meet about these different systems so that we might exploit them more to our benefit.

It's not that difficult once you understand the basic rules of the system(s). They're each different and each has it's pluses and minuses.

In order to "exploit" (i.e. maximize your advantage) the systems, that takes a little bit of study.

The bottom line is, IMHO (not In any particular order)

1)Play where it's convenient
2)Play where you feel lucky
3)Don't chase comps
4)Play within your limits

Take whatever comps you get at the level that you're playing.

charlie50
01-04-2017, 05:37 PM
It's not that difficult once you understand the basic rules of the system(s). They're each different and each has it's pluses and minuses.

In order to "exploit" (i.e. maximize your advantage) the systems, that takes a little bit of study.

The bottom line is, IMHO (not In any particular order)

1)Play where it's convenient
2)Play where you feel lucky
3)Don't chase comps
4)Play within your limits

Take whatever comps you get at the level that you're playing.

Thanks for your advice . I think the problem im having with TR Particularly is there doesn't seem to be a pattern to follow . At least with Graze (ya i know different card )the pattern seems to be stay and play at least a few days then go to Graze desk and see if you have accumulated any thing & if ya have then they will load it into the system and you can play it on any NON progressive machines .With TR it didnt seen to matter how much we played in any of there casinos . we would never get more than $10 in play comp

dailun
01-04-2017, 05:51 PM
One of the differences are that Grazie is "more" generous with converting comp points to Free Play.

Anything less than Diamond level takes a beating when you convert Reward Credits (which differ from Tier Credits) to Free Play.

Here's how it works with TR (this is a basic explanation and doesn't take into account any discounts you get depending on your tier level, except where noted):

If you are purely a slot player, you accumulate Reward Credits (RCs) at the rate of $5 in equals 1 RC.

Those can be used as comps, or converted to Free Play.

If you use them as comps in a restaurant or gift shop, they convert at 100RC = $1

If you convert to Free Play, the conversion rate is:

Gold - 200RC = $1
Platinum - 200RC = $1
Diamond - 175RC = $1
7* - 125RC = $1

IMHO, with TR, RCs are much more valuable at restaurants than as Free Play.

At Grazie, there is no difference between Free Play and Comps. $1 comps = $1 Free Play. I'm not going to go into the earning of comp points in the Grazie system, since it varies by machine.

charlie50
01-04-2017, 06:42 PM
One of the differences are that Grazie is "more" generous with converting comp points to Free Play.

Anything less than Diamond level takes a beating when you convert Reward Credits (which differ from Tier Credits) to Free Play.

Here's how it works with TR (this is a basic explanation and doesn't take into account any discounts you get depending on your tier level, except where noted):

If you are purely a slot player, you accumulate Reward Credits (RCs) at the rate of $5 in equals 1 RC.

Those can be used as comps, or converted to Free Play.

If you use them as comps in a restaurant or gift shop, they convert at 100RC = $1

If you convert to Free Play, the conversion rate is:

Gold - 200RC = $1
Platinum - 200RC = $1
Diamond - 175RC = $1
7* - 125RC = $1

IMHO, with TR, RCs are much more valuable at restaurants than as Free Play.

At Grazie, there is no difference between Free Play and Comps. $1 comps = $1 Free Play. I'm not going to go into the earning of comp points in the Grazie system, since it varies by machine.

Yup those numbers sound about right .wow a 1000 through the machine to get a buck back .hardly seems worth using the card

foamy
01-04-2017, 07:22 PM
Yup those numbers sound about right .wow a 1000 through the machine to get a buck back .hardly seems worth using the card

1k through would be 200 tier but we alway's try to go when there is a multiplier and have got as high as 25x that's when you make hay. hhh New years day I had a 3 time and made 2500 points so $75 in comps and we use them for food mostlly.

charlie50
01-04-2017, 07:27 PM
1k through would be 200 tier but we alway's try to go when there is a multiplier and have got as high as 25x that's when you make hay. hhh New years day I had a 3 time and made 2500 points so $75 in comps and we use them for food mostlly.

Ah makes scene . yup a lot of places do double and triple points at certain times of the year

MNvegasgal
01-05-2017, 12:03 AM
Yeah in Biloxi it's a big tier credit hit but faster express comps.

I knew it was a slower build.. but I didn't remember it being so difficult. I only needed 12K to make Platinum for the year and it took me three days of hard play to get it. In Vegas, that is roughly 80 to 90K Tier Credits. dailun, we are considering our MLIFE status, we like the Aria so much in Las Vegas, and the Junket flights to Biloxi, but will see what CET brings us this year.

dailun
01-05-2017, 01:24 AM
Yup those numbers sound about right .wow a 1000 through the machine to get a buck back .hardly seems worth using the card

If getting FP is your goal, then maybe CET (Total Rewards) isn't the card/company/organization you should be looking at.

IMHO, CET has the BEST way of getting discounted/comped rooms of any strip chain.

Cosmopolitan has a better play/FP ratio, but it's only a single property.

I'm not here to "sell" CET over mLife or Identity, or Boarding Pass (Station) or any other group.

Once you decide what's important to you, then choose the program which plays to that goal.

Downtown at the D has one of the "best" programs, but it is "downtown".

dailun
01-05-2017, 05:36 AM
I knew it was a slower build.. but I didn't remember it being so difficult. I only needed 12K to make Platinum for the year and it took me three days of hard play to get it. In Vegas, that is roughly 80 to 90K Tier Credits. dailun, we are considering our MLIFE status, we like the Aria so much in Las Vegas, and the Junket flights to Biloxi, but will see what CET brings us this year.

If I recall, it's a 10X differential. mLife should be taking mucho good care of you for making Platinum at Beau Rivage.

Correction:
I just checked and it a 5X differential.

Las Vegas
10 TC per base point ($3 on a standard slot machine)

Beau Rivage or Gold Strike
2 TC per base point

MGM Grand Detroit
1TC per base point

MGM National Harbor
?? per base pojnt.

charlie50
01-05-2017, 12:49 PM
If getting FP is your goal, then maybe CET (Total Rewards) isn't the card/company/organization you should be looking at.

IMHO, CET has the BEST way of getting discounted/comped rooms of any strip chain.

Cosmopolitan has a better play/FP ratio, but it's only a single property.

I'm not here to "sell" CET over mLife or Identity, or Boarding Pass (Station) or any other group.

Once you decide what's important to you, then choose the program which plays to that goal.

Downtown at the D has one of the "best" programs, but it is "downtown".

Well originally i thought FP was gonna be the goal (along with other perks). i see now that its NOT . what i see now is... the goal is to get you in to the hotel get you a little liquored up so that you will loosen up your purse strings and make large donations to the slots. for us we will all ways tend to migrate toward places that want to do more for us with FP being at the top on that list . we don't necessarily need the the casinos give us free food . i can feed my self pretty darn cheap so a $30.00 buffet where im not gonna eat any where close to 30s worth don't mean a lot to me. let me be frank we have known for a while now that las vegas is all about the lights and the glitz. serious gamblers don't play a lot there (unless your doing table games )serious gamblers are gonna go to places where they feel there getting some sort of return (in cash ) for running there hard earned $$$ through the machines .

dailun
01-05-2017, 05:09 PM
Not trying to pick a fight here. You have your opinion and are certainly entitled to that opinion. However, I will disagree with your statement that " . . . . serious gamblers don't play a lot there (the strip) (unless your doing table games )serious gamblers are gonna go to places where they feel there getting some sort of return (in cash ) for running there hard earned $$$ through the machines ."

Anyone that is Diamond level or above could/should be considered a "serious" gambler. I am 7* and consider myself a "serious" gambler. Each of us plays for a different reason. Amenities, food, etc. Your interest is Free Play, and (IMHO) you should concentrate your play where Free Play is emphasized.

I'm not sure what your expectation is, but I go to Las Vegas 6-10 times a year and stay on the Strip 99% of the time. I am quite happy with the comps that I am given.

As I said, CET's strength is not towards Free Play until you get to the higher levels. Many of the Downtown or off-strip casinos are more geared towards Free Play.

If you look at the statistics (published by the Nevada Gaming Commission) you will see that the Strip payback isn't THAT much different than anywhere else.

foamy
01-05-2017, 05:53 PM
dailun I agree with everything you said and I go where the best bang for the buck is. Our local treats us decent but if I drive another 1 hour and 10 minutes it's so much better so if I have time I go there the difference is about 300 freeplay a nicer suite, free drinks steak house comps vs. a buffet.

charlie50
01-05-2017, 06:06 PM
Not trying to pick a fight here. You have your opinion and are certainly entitled to that opinion. However, I will disagree with your statement that " . . . . serious gamblers don't play a lot there (the strip) (unless your doing table games )serious gamblers are gonna go to places where they feel there getting some sort of return (in cash ) for running there hard earned $$$ through the machines ."

Anyone that is Diamond level or above could/should be considered a "serious" gambler. I am 7* and consider myself a "serious" gambler. Each of us plays for a different reason. Amenities, food, etc. Your interest is Free Play, and (IMHO) you should concentrate your play where Free Play is emphasized.

I'm not sure what your expectation is, but I go to Las Vegas 6-10 times a year and stay on the Strip 99% of the time. I am quite happy with the comps that I am given.

As I said, CET's strength is not towards Free Play until you get to the higher levels. Many of the Downtown or off-strip casinos are more geared towards Free Play.

If you look at the statistics (published by the Nevada Gaming Commission) you will see that the Strip payback isn't THAT much different than anywhere else.

Oh no there is no fight . were having a discussion and differing opinions will come up time to time . now that being said . i should of excluded HL machine players in my general statement about players . HL machine players are the whales that casinos look for and comp the best (as they should be )I was referring to folks like Donna and myself (1.50 to 5.00 types )max bet in players. i cant tell you how many times ive walked down a row of newly installed machines Ill use Buffalo gold for an example and every machine is set at .60 cent bet .

dailun
01-05-2017, 06:14 PM
dailun I agree with everything you said and I go where the best bang for the buck is. Our local treats us decent but if I drive another 1 hour and 10 minutes it's so much better so if I have time I go there the difference is about 300 freeplay a nicer suite, free drinks steak house comps vs. a buffet.

Absolutely. I went to a local yesterday for my birthday and was reminded why I had quit going there.

IMHO, local casinos are there if and only if you really need to "scratch that itch". It's worth it to me to drive another 2 hours to Reno/Tahoe, or fly to Las Vegas because I know that I will be better taken care of.

pkspins
01-05-2017, 11:01 PM
1k through would be 200 tier but we alway's try to go when there is a multiplier and have got as high as 25x that's when you make hay. hhh New years day I had a 3 time and made 2500 points so $75 in comps and we use them for food mostlly.

This is so true. I made tons of RCs off the Browns multiplier promotion the Cleveland casino used to run when they were TR. They were the day after the games, and it always seemed like the machines paid better those days too so you got to play forever and a lot of times I made all the RCs, plus TCs toward my SS*, plus went home ahead on real money too.

Those were the days. Now my balance is like 30 RCs. I happily spent them all, mostly on free play. I don't get to do many trips but if I am ever traveling somewhere where they offer multiplier days I would definitely try to plan my dates around being there for those.

phillycub
01-08-2017, 11:15 AM
If getting FP is your goal, then maybe CET (Total Rewards) isn't the card/company/organization you should be looking at.

IMHO, CET has the BEST way of getting discounted/comped rooms of any strip chain.

Cosmopolitan has a better play/FP ratio, but it's only a single property.

I'm not here to "sell" CET over mLife or Identity, or Boarding Pass (Station) or any other group.

Once you decide what's important to you, then choose the program which plays to that goal.

Downtown at the D has one of the "best" programs, but it is "downtown".

"Downtown" is my favorite place to be in Vegas. :)


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ThePawnshop
01-08-2017, 12:43 PM
For mLife, if you play anywhere but Las Vegas, you take a tremendous hit. That's one of the reasons that I left mLife.

What does that mean? I've been getting offers to stay at the new MGM in Baltimore. How is that play different than say...play at The Bellagio or MGM in Vegas?


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dailun
01-08-2017, 01:14 PM
AFAIK, If you are a slot player the amount of tier credits you earn at mLife casinos outside of Las Vegas is substantially less. If you are a table player, there is no effect.

In Las Vegas, slot players earn Tier credits on the following schedule:

$3 of Slot Play = one base point = 10 Tier Credits
$1 spent at MGM Properties = 25 Tier Credits

When playing at Beau Rivage or Gold Strike Tunica, you receive two (2) Tier Credits for every Base Point earned. At MGM Grand Detroit, you receive one (1) Tier Credit for every Base Point earned. For table games, you'll earn Tier Credits based on length of play, average bet, and game type.

I don't know what the "penalty" is for playing at National Harbor, but I'm sure that there is one.

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ThePawnshop
01-08-2017, 01:21 PM
AFAIK, If you are a slot player the amount of tier credits you earn at mLife casinos outside of Las Vegas is substantially less. If you are a table player, there is no effect.

In Las Vegas, slot players earn Tier credits on the following schedule:

$3 of Slot Play = one base point = 10 Tier Credits
$1 spent at MGM Properties = 25 Tier Credits

When playing at Beau Rivage or Gold Strike Tunica, you receive two (2) Tier Credits for every Base Point earned. At MGM Grand Detroit, you receive one (1) Tier Credit for every Base Point earned. For table games, you'll earn Tier Credits based on length of play, average bet, and game type.

I don't know what the "penalty" is for playing at National Harbor, but I'm sure that there is one.

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What a crock o shat! Why wouldn't it be the same at all properties! I'd love to play Harrah's Baltimore but they don't have a hotel attached. Guess I'll stick with CET properties. Plus I never worry about comps, rooms, transportation, etc. They take care of everything! That said, Cosmo and M-Life has been sending tempting offers...


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dailun
01-08-2017, 03:49 PM
What a crock o shat! Why wouldn't it be the same at all properties! I'd love to play Harrah's Baltimore but they don't have a hotel attached. Guess I'll stick with CET properties. Plus I never worry about comps, rooms, transportation, etc. They take care of everything! That said, Cosmo and M-Life has been sending tempting offers...


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Please don't shoot the messenger . . . I'm only reporting what I know. As to why, I have no idea. When I'm at Beau Rivage in a couple of weeks, I'll ask.

That was ONE of the reasons I left mLife, though I still try maintain Pearl just to get free parking. I visit Bellagio once a year for HGS since they started requiring a stay to participate in the myVegas promotion (long story).

I'm very interested to see how paid parking at CET casinos is gonna work.

charlie50
01-08-2017, 04:45 PM
"Downtown" is my favorite place to be in Vegas. :)


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Ya know i all ways hear how a lot of folks say that downtown is the best place to gamble at . ill have to be honest here. weve won very little downtown as a mater of fact we have done much better on the strip heck this last trip out we had a nice run at the Luxor and PH with a few nice hits at paris and of course Donna's hp over to Venetian .

DK528
01-08-2017, 04:48 PM
What does that mean? I've been getting offers to stay at the new MGM in Baltimore. How is that play different than say...play at The Bellagio or MGM in Vegas?


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I've looked on the mlife website to find out what the tier credits value is at Nat'l Harbor and can't find anything. I asked on mLife's FB page. If I hear back I'll let you know.


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ThePawnshop
01-08-2017, 04:50 PM
I've looked on the mlife website to find out what the tier credits value is at Nat'l Harbor and can't find anything. I asked on mLife's FB page. If I hear back I'll let you know.


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Thanks. I'd love to try there...only a four hour drive.


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dailun
01-08-2017, 06:27 PM
I've looked on the mlife website to find out what the tier credits value is at Nat'l Harbor and can't find anything. I asked on mLife's FB page. If I hear back I'll let you know.


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I also sent an email directly to mLife customer support.

UPDATED: They told me that it's 8 Tier Credits per point at MGM National Harbor, and Borgata hasn't been defined yet.

pkspins
01-08-2017, 07:14 PM
What a crock o shat! Why wouldn't it be the same at all properties! I'd love to play Harrah's Baltimore but they don't have a hotel attached. Guess I'll stick with CET properties. Plus I never worry about comps, rooms, transportation, etc. They take care of everything! That said, Cosmo and M-Life has been sending tempting offers...
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Baltimore does give comp rooms. I think now it's just at a Sheraton but they used to have others. We stayed at a Hyatt. We just went in our car but they have or at least had a shuttle bus, plus there's probably cabs also.
It's been a while but aren't there some tax issues with winning handpays in Maryland as a non-MD resident - i.e. that you have to then file a state tax return there as a non-resident? I didn't win shit there so it wasn't an issue but I remember my CLE then-CET host giving me a heads up because one of her Seven Stars went there, won a bunch and got hosed on taxes.

ThePawnshop
01-08-2017, 08:35 PM
Baltimore does give comp rooms. I think now it's just at a Sheraton but they used to have others. We stayed at a Hyatt. We just went in our car but they have or at least had a shuttle bus, plus there's probably cabs also.
It's been a while but aren't there some tax issues with winning handpays in Maryland as a non-MD resident - i.e. that you have to then file a state tax return there as a non-resident? I didn't win shit there so it wasn't an issue but I remember my CLE then-CET host giving me a heads up because one of her Seven Stars went there, won a bunch and got hosed on taxes.

National Harbor just opened. Big casino in a beautiful hotel. I'm curious about tax consequences on a handpay....that would be the same at ANY Baltimore casino, I assume. Not to worried. I've got an accountant so IF I won, the tax return is handled. I may take them up on the offer once just for shits and giggles. The latest offer is two free nights tonight through Wednesday. Too short of notice but again, I may give them a try over my beloved CET just because the casino is in the hotel. Screw having to take a shuttle. I like gambling while he wife gets ready, ya know?


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phillycub
01-10-2017, 06:07 AM
Ya know i all ways hear how a lot of folks say that downtown is the best place to gamble at . ill have to be honest here. weve won very little downtown as a mater of fact we have done much better on the strip heck this last trip out we had a nice run at the Luxor and PH with a few nice hits at paris and of course Donna's hp over to Venetian .

i've always done well at circus circus. Downtown for me lets me play longer and i earn better comps....and don't have to walk a mile to go from one place to another. I would def. like to go to the Venetian/Palazzo this trip and see how I do! CET properties I can always get a room...just have no desire to walk a mile to my room.

charlie50
01-10-2017, 12:52 PM
i've always done well at circus circus. Downtown for me lets me play longer and i earn better comps....and don't have to walk a mile to go from one place to another. I would def. like to go to the Venetian/Palazzo this trip and see how I do! CET properties I can always get a room...just have no desire to walk a mile to my room.

Yeah the walking is the down side

camon
01-10-2017, 10:47 PM
Whatever happened to the bonus TR we are supposed to be getting after opting in in October? When will that show up in our accounts? All I see from looking is 50 TR points from my last time there at harrahs so cal, enough to be eligible to swipe my card for a prize before I left. Going tomorrow for hopefully another 50 points at least and more depending on what the free play does for me. My goal is to average at least 50 TR points per trip winning off my free play. I was supposed to go on Sunday and then on Monday again for 10x the rewards points, but did not want to wake up sunday morning and slept in missing the bus and it was raining Monday anyway so also stayed home.

One thing I don't understand is why total rewards lowered my free play last month by 20 and then lowered it again by 10 this month (60 free play in November with 50 bonus twice a week, December 40 free play with 40 bonus twice a week, now January 30 free play with 20 bonus twice a week). Does not make sense because I average same amount of points each trip with the least one trip being 30 points on a bad day. A few times in November and in December I made over 500 points in one day. I was going twice a week due to the promotions on sunday and then going back on Monday for 10x the reward points. Maybe going too much in a month is why they did it? Since harrahs so cal messed up the Genie power payouts causing the jackpots to go slower, I have not been averaging as many points due to the jackpots being low. Major used to go up over 100 a lot before the casino changed it to stay around 30 like the other casinos. Mega also used to go over 300.

foamy
01-10-2017, 11:05 PM
Whatever happened to the bonus TR we are supposed to be getting after opting in in October? When will that show up in our accounts? All I see from looking is 50 TR points from my last time there at harrahs so cal, enough to be eligible to swipe my card for a prize before I left. Going tomorrow for hopefully another 50 points at least and more depending on what the free play does for me. My goal is to average at least 50 TR points per trip winning off my free play. I was supposed to go on Sunday and then on Monday again for 10x the rewards points, but did not want to wake up sunday morning and slept in missing the bus and it was raining Monday anyway so also stayed home.

One thing I don't understand is why total rewards lowered my free play last month by 20 and then lowered it again by 10 this month (60 free play in November with 50 bonus twice a week, December 40 free play with 40 bonus twice a week, now January 30 free play with 20 bonus twice a week). Does not make sense because I average same amount of points each trip with the least one trip being 30 points on a bad day. A few times in November and in December I made over 500 points in one day. I was going twice a week due to the promotions on sunday and then going back on Monday for 10x the reward points. Maybe going too much in a month is why they did it? Since harrahs so cal messed up the Genie power payouts causing the jackpots to go slower, I have not been averaging as many points due to the jackpots being low. Major used to go up over 100 a lot before the casino changed it to stay around 30 like the other casinos. Mega also used to go over 300.

Usually around March they show up. As for free play earning 50 points is probably not going to get much no offense.

kdk
01-10-2017, 11:48 PM
I think the points from the October-December promo will show up the end of this month actually.

goldengreeke
01-11-2017, 01:25 AM
Usually around March they show up. As for free play earning 50 points is probably not going to get much no offense. Unless you have two degenerates playing on the same card for 16 hours straight..... ;)

camon
01-11-2017, 08:50 AM
Usually around March they show up. As for free play earning 50 points is probably not going to get much no offense.

Thank you. 50 points is just a goal for each trip. There is a promotion every monday-wednesday at harrahs so cal where if you get at least 50 points, you swipe your card for prizes ranging from free play, food, rewards credit, etc. Usually I get the reward credits and 5,000 is what I have gotten a lot and can get 25 dollars free play out of that a week later during my next weeks trip. Last week I got 10 dollars in rewards credit swiping. It is a very good promotion.

Oh and the reason I got only 50 points is because about 15 minutes later the public transit bus was going to leave to go to valley view (a casino 4 miles away from harrahs) to use my free play there for 2 hours and then head back. Most trips I get at least 100 points, which is good because harrahs is 5 dollars a point. Plus I was almost out of money from my winnings at harrahs before I left and I wanted enough to save for the bus fare to and back and to activate my free play at VV. Public transit Bus is every 2 hours, so only have to stay 2 hours at VV and then come back to get ready to get on harrahs shuttle back home. Valley View free play is every 10 days (3 times each month) so 3 times each month I only spend about 80 minutes at harrahs before heading to Valley view. I bet that probably is what hurt my harrahs offers because when I come back to harrahs if I dont eat at valley view, I spend the last 30 minutes before having to leave to eat. I should do 2 separate trips (one day at harrahs and one day at VV), but valley view pays good at the time I like to go there and whenever I tried to go in the morning I would not win much or last long and plus being at valley view only 2 hours, I have better luck bringing home winnings.

camon
01-11-2017, 08:52 AM
I think the points from the October-December promo will show up the end of this month actually.

Thank you. If not the end of this month, it will probably be around March like foamy mentioned.

CPT
01-11-2017, 07:24 PM
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Oh CET $70k coin in for a 70" tv seems like a logical thing to chase!


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treyster
01-11-2017, 08:12 PM
And you 32 hrs to do it! Need to get Pawn involved lol

kdk
01-11-2017, 08:13 PM
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Oh CET $70k coin in for a 70" tv seems like a logical thing to chase!


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Well go for it, $70,000 on their 86% payback slots would mean you should in theory lose $9800. sounds like a bargain to me, oh wait you could just buy 7 of them instead....

dailun
01-11-2017, 10:26 PM
National Harbor just opened. Big casino in a beautiful hotel. I'm curious about tax consequences on a handpay....that would be the same at ANY Baltimore casino, I assume. Not to worried. I've got an accountant so IF I won, the tax return is handled. I may take them up on the offer once just for shits and giggles. The latest offer is two free nights tonight through Wednesday. Too short of notice but again, I may give them a try over my beloved CET just because the casino is in the hotel. Screw having to take a shuttle. I like gambling while he wife gets ready, ya know?


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This is what I found on the web:

"Withholding for Gambling Winnings

Lottery and other gambling winnings in excess of $5,000 are subject to withholding at a rate of 8.75% for Maryland residents or 7.5% for nonresidents. Pari-mutuel (horse racing) winnings in excess of $5,000 and at least 300 times as large as the original wager are subject to the same withholding rates. "

So, my question would be if the win is over $1200 and less than $5000 is there no withholding?

pkspins
01-11-2017, 10:39 PM
Oh CET $70k coin in for a 70" tv seems like a logical thing to chase!
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That is a huge ton of gambling. I've done 6000+ a couple of times for gifts and even at $5/$10 a spin it gets tedious when you have to do it, plus a lot of luck to not lose your ass while getting the points.

dailun
01-11-2017, 11:08 PM
That's a ridiculous amount of gambling. I'm glad that I have a head start and am usually offered a larger TV and the upgrades are rather low.

CPT
01-11-2017, 11:18 PM
I'm offered a 9" TV or $75 FP for Saturday. It's one of the bigger offers I've gotten from them, I LOL at the TV, but not planning on going to New Jersey anytime soon! Hehe

sondor
01-11-2017, 11:35 PM
I got the offer for a 24"....but have to earn the same points to move up, the prize ladder is the same I just don't have the 900 and 1100 tier shown

pkspins
01-12-2017, 04:46 AM
I liked these kind of offers when the CLE area casinos were CET when the prize that you can just show up to get was already pretty decent. They were local so if I went down Friday and nothing was paying I could say screw it, take my money and go home, then come back the next day and get my gift. I did a TV ladder offer once and stuff was paying and the jump to the next level TV wasn't that high so I played. Another time there was a home stuff ladder one where the only items I kinda needed were my guaranteed one (tabletop oven thing) and the top one (a Dyson). So I went down, played my FP and a couple bucks, stuff wasn't paying so I went home and just came back the next day to get the guaranteed gift.

I really feel ambivalent about the idea of planning a trip where I not only have to travel I have to play to a certain level to get a decent prize once I get there. Because then it would doubly suck. First I'd be on a trip where the gambling is for shit. Second I'm on a trip that I came on to get a gift and now the gift is going to be shitty, whereas I could have come at a different time on a better FP offer, or just stayed home and went to the store to buy the item with the money I didn't take gambling.

I did go to Vegas to get a TV but all I had to do was show up to get a 55" one.

dailun
01-12-2017, 05:27 AM
Yeah, I got the 55" last year, but should have held out and got a 55" 4K this year . . . .

pkspins
01-12-2017, 04:31 PM
Yeah, I got the 55" last year, but should have held out and got a 55" 4K this year . . . .

I already had a January trip planned for different dates - a friend of mine has an event to attend so we're making it into a girls trip - or otherwise I'm sure my DH would have been more than happy to have me go out and get him that one too. Fortunately I got an offer for FP (or a gift card but I think I'm taking the FP) during the timeframe that we need to be there anyway so that worked out.