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Mauretania
03-31-2015, 11:01 PM
A player reported that CET downgraded all the STP, UX, etc.. to 6/5 BP, 7/5 DDB etc...up to but not including $5 level.

Luckylinda123
03-31-2015, 11:05 PM
It's getting to be the new normal

treyster
03-31-2015, 11:45 PM
Kinda like resort fees, once one place does it, the rest will eventually follow.

Pat
04-01-2015, 12:11 AM
A player reported that CET downgraded all the STP, UX, etc.. to 6/5 BP, 7/5 DDB etc...up to but not including $5 level.

Can you please explain what that means? Are you talking about video poker?

Luckylinda123
04-01-2015, 12:23 AM
Yes video poker these have extra bets. Multi lines, play more than one game at a time. Will get a multiplier come up then if have a win it will be times that much.
I rarely play these as my money lasts longer on one game at a time. If I do play I drop to nickel and not all games so unless it is a Huge win don't get as much as quarters.

Pat
04-01-2015, 12:26 AM
thanks Linda

clemi
04-01-2015, 02:00 AM
Just curious what the "typical" pay tables are for these games?
My experience is limited but I thought the pay tables were already low.
Lol, can't imagine playing $5 denom on these.. Would make for some serious bets, out of my league for sure!

dwwright12
04-01-2015, 03:54 AM
A player reported that CET downgraded all the STP, UX, etc.. to 6/5 BP, 7/5 DDB etc...up to but not including $5 level.

First the table games...now VP. That's what 2 billion debt will do. I'm glad I cashed in most of my RC over the weekend. They might get those, too!!

dwwright12
04-01-2015, 04:09 AM
Just curious what the "typical" pay tables are for these games?
My experience is limited but I thought the pay tables were already low.
Lol, can't imagine playing $5 denom on these.. Would make for some serious bets, out of my league for sure!

The pay tables are actually pretty good.


A typical 6/5 on BP (Bonus Poker)

Bonus Poker — 35-6-5 — 97.36%


HAND
PAYS
COMBINATIONS
PROBABILITY
RETURN


Royal flush
800
41,349,708
0.000025
0.019914


Straight flush
50
178,989,910
0.000108
0.005388


Four of a kind
35
3,924,989,905
0.002363
0.082701


Full house
6
19,125,304,425
0.011514
0.069082


Flush
5
18,111,588,632
0.010903
0.054517


Straight
4
18,664,201,606
0.011236
0.044944


3 of a kind
3
123,689,496,667
0.074462
0.223387


Two pair
2
214,776,325,071
0.129297
0.258595


Jacks or better
1
357,234,392,976
0.215059
0.215059


Nothing
0
905,355,904,200
0.545033
0.000000


Total

1,661,102,543,100
1.000000
0.973586










And a BP game with an 8/5 pay table.

Bonus Poker — 30-8-5 — 98.48%

HAND
PAYS
COMBINATIONS
PROBABILITY
RETURN


Royal flush
800
41,353,019
0.000025
0.019916


Straight flush
50
178,673,946
0.000108
0.005378


Four of a kind
30
3,925,025,853
0.002363
0.070887


Full house
8
19,125,542,817
0.011514
0.092110


Flush
5
18,105,224,890
0.010900
0.054498


Straight
4
18,660,993,247
0.011234
0.044936


3 of a kind
3
123,691,563,204
0.074464
0.223391


Two pair
2
214,780,152,114
0.129300
0.258600


Jacks or better
1
357,275,502,825
0.215083
0.215083


Nothing
0
905,318,511,185
0.545011
0.000000


Total

1,661,102,543,100
1.000000
0.984799






If you want to see all the games go to:

http://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/analyzer/

Mauretania
04-01-2015, 03:36 PM
Just curious what the "typical" pay tables are for these games?
My experience is limited but I thought the pay tables were already low.
Lol, can't imagine playing $5 denom on these.. Would make for some serious bets, out of my league for sure!

Clemi, yes, they usually are lower, especially on BP within the carnival games. I have seen STP full-pay. If I remember correctly, Wynn had STP DDB @ 9/6 at the $ level and you could play one line for a $6 bet and still get the multipliers, if you were lucky. I hope luvstp weighs in, she would remember that particular Wynn paytable.

clemi
04-02-2015, 01:29 AM
Clemi, yes, they usually are lower, especially on BP within the carnival games. I have seen STP full-pay. If I remember correctly, Wynn had STP DDB @ 9/6 at the $ level and you could play one line for a $6 bet and still get the multipliers, if you were lucky. I hope luvstp weighs in, she would remember that particular Wynn paytable.

That would be interesting, will have to check it out next week [emoji4]