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    Quote Originally Posted by treyster View Post
    I'm a little surprised these games you have listed from the last few years don't have a lower floor. I have to believe there a many new slots, particularly in NV, that can be cranked down below 85%
    Your right and we have not yet begun discussing "server" based games. New Jersey must be set to pay back a minimum of 83%, while games in Nevada have a lower limit of 75%. On average, the payout percentage for most slots ranges from 82% to 98%. Thats why, in the short run, its really all about game volatility for bankroll life.
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    I remember that list, Slotspert! Have you compared to the actual numbers produced by Vegas casinos?? I believe they report the results by different regions of Vegas, (i.e. the Strip, Downtown area, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwwright12 View Post
    I remember that list, Slotspert! Have you compared to the actual numbers produced by Vegas casinos?? I believe they report the results by different regions of Vegas, (i.e. the Strip, Downtown area, etc.)
    I did and because you do get those "million" spin results amongst the Vegas casinos at their different game denominations, you definitely get the confidence interval result ranges proving Strip hotels pay worse!
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    I did and because you do get those "million" spin results amongst the Vegas casinos at their different game denominations, you definitely get the confidence interval result ranges proving non-Strip hotels pay worse!
    I noticed on vp a lot of strip hotels do not have the progressives compared to off strip so do those factor in too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie50 View Post
    Patterns of percentage paid out are great if they work . all i ever hear about any more on any of these new classes of slot machines are "its all random' no pattern to be followed ...im not convinced . i have found some patterns . for instance while playing on multi dom units ( a good example of this would be the Buffalo series of games ) it seems to pay more often on upper level bets or as i like to think of it as bets not as likely to be made by a player as compared to low end bets that are Highly likely to be made by a player . now that could relate to set percentage payout perimeters i dont know & its not all way consistent i will say that.
    Playing Devil's Advocate, it is unlikely you are seeing a "pattern" as that would be illegal. Some games (and you have to read the rules) do payback a higher return on higher bets. Even then, it would take 1000's of spin to really notice that and even then, it would boil down to game volatility. Example: the lousy Ainsworth games or several versions of IT's Money Rain games- great hit frequency, but try to win big and its unlikely. Compare that to the Lightning Link Games- Get into a bonus round and you will do decent, but the base game eats away at your bankroll.
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    in your opinion are all rng programs the same or different per manufacturer ?

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    First Update in 6 years!. Why not, since it may ignite a new interest in paybacks again. Strange how to look back over six years ago and see most of these games are gone. Look at bottom of post #1, Page #1 of this thread for latest update and payback range. The "other" replacement slot bulletin board site is almost completely inactive, so I am afraid it will vanish like the original Slot Machine Forum did 8 years ago (for those that remember):
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    only 1 game intel in 6 years? how did you come across this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvandentop View Post
    only 1 game intel in 6 years? how did you come across this one?
    Strictly Slots Magazine was the primary source in the past. There are also some Slot PAR sheets roaming around the internet like this one that shows the payback range and standard deviation from 1000 to 10,000,000 pulls
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    The original Slot Fanatics site seems to be gone/discontinued/closed. Thankfully I brought over this data from the original forum some of you still remember from over 13 years ago. This is probably the last and only carryover data post from the "old testament" of the slot world where it really all started with Shamus back so many years ago.
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